32 Replies to “This sign outside of McDonald’s”

  1. I’m an American woman that lived in Saudi for a year (with my Saudi husband). My husband parked out front of a Starbucks and I went in to order. As I’m waiting for my order all these guys kept looking over at me and giving me weird uncomfortable looks. When I got the order and back to the car I was complaining how weird all the men were. Then my husband told me I went in through the Men’s door and was in the men’s only section the whole time. But he didn’t bother to say anything because the family section side looked busy.

    Also, it was annoying that everything closed during prayer times. But right after prayer time was the best time to hit up McDonalds, fresh and hot fries!

  2. The Western world put a spotlight on South Africa in the 80’s to end apartheid. I just don’t understand why Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries are still getting away with this level of discrimination, with never a peep from prominent Western leaders…

  3. Everyone should watch Anthony Bourdain’s No Reservations episode on Saudi Arabia. It’s very eye-opening. Probably one of my favorite episodes from that show.

  4. Not a parody. Most evil thing I seen today.

    [Posted today by UK born muslim](https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/7wky7e/just_saw_islam_women_me_what_did_u_guys_think/du18jl2/)

    >What is it with everyones obsession with plebian, liberal activist buzz terms such as ‘oppression’ and ’empowerment’. Let’s break this down with regards to women in general;

    >’Oppressed’ is never a word that should be used with regards to women. Because that means whatever restrains or suppressions imposed by nature through the enforcement of worthy men upon a certain category of people, are undue and not worthy of carrying the burden of such constraints. Women are however, entirely worthy of such constraints and thus it is not undue. What Islam does, as do many other glorious traditions, is to place women in their natural stations to be acting as wives and mothers.

  5. To add a bit of context: in Gulf countries it’s typical for restaurants and some cafes to offer a “family section” which is somewhat separated from the rest of the establishment. Families or groups of women are seated in this section and groups of men only are seated outside it. The idea is not really to limit where women can sit – although it does effectively achieve that – but more to segregate women from bachelors.

    Evidently the manager of this McDonalds has taken issue with the fact that there is no divider in the seating area – but I find this quite strange since every western fast food place in the Gulf that I visited just dispensed with the “family section” concept and everyone seemed fine with it. So this seems unusual.

    In these countries gender segregation is a part of traditional life. In Oman for example many houses are built with two sitting rooms, one for the patriarch to host out-of-the-family male visitors, and one for the family, but also accessible to extended family and women visitors.

    You might see this as backwards or oppressive and I don’t have an argument to the contrary. But I will say that there are certainly women in these countries who *agree* with this segregation because it prevents them from coming into contact with bachelors, which they would prefer not to do, because of traditional propriety. But there are women in these countries who would prefer not to have these rules as well.

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